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13 Responses to “Year in Review: Shane Victorino”

1. Dan Says:
   November 18th, 2010 at 10:37 am

   Victorino’s average was down this year. He said in an interview that he might bunt more. I think he got more breaking balls than in the past and he’ll have to adjust. I think he can.

2. Pat Gallen Says:
   November 18th, 2010 at 10:50 am

   He HAS to adjust, you’re right Dan. There was none of that last year, he continually rolled balls over to second base and was not a line-drive threat like he should be. When he’s working well, he’s hitting .285 and hitting hard liners into the gaps. After that contract he got homer-happy and started swinging for the fences at every turn. He doesn’t have to do that now, not sure why he still does.

3. Ted Bell Says:
   November 18th, 2010 at 10:53 am

   I’m not getting the “Hawaiian” angle here. Victorino is a solid (not great) major league baseball player. I don’t think he’s overrated or underrated. Year in and year out, he does just about what we expect him to. Any player that’s been in the post season for four consecutive seasons (and popped a couple of key homeruns in 2008) will obtain some level of fame. Being known as a solid baseball player is a lot different than being a “household name”.

   I’m Ted Bell.

4. Phylan Says:
   November 18th, 2010 at 12:37 pm

   I expect more from Victorino than .259/.327/.410. It’s not like we really have any better options at this point (that don’t involve re-signing Werth and moving him to center, which won’t happen), but that’s not a good line.

5. NJ Says:
   November 18th, 2010 at 12:50 pm

   Which gold glover had the better year Shane Victorino or Mark Teixeria who’s average was lower, different skillsets I know but Curtis Granderson hit 12 points lower with not much more power.

   We’ve been spoiled by guys who can hit for (at least occasional) power, average, steal and score runs but not all guys can.

   No doubt elements of Vic’s game as shown above were a disappointment but he made key contributions throughout the season and is debatably the best defensive everyday CF in the game. He deserves more than a passing grade.

6. Phylan Says:
   November 18th, 2010 at 1:03 pm

   Victorino: .259/.327/.429 (looks like his SLG was wrong in the article)
   Teixeira: .256/.365/.481

   This is why batting average can be deceiving. Teixeira had a much better year, in what was a down year for him as well.

   And, with respect, Victorino’s defense is very overrated. He takes very poor routes to balls, and ends up having to dive/lunge for flyballs that would be routine for CFs, which is probably why he he gets credited for his defense, and why ML managers award him gold gloves. Speed does not equal defense.

7. Publius Says:
   November 18th, 2010 at 1:03 pm

   Who on earth is debating sanely that Victorino is the best defensive CF in the game? Don’t let the erroneously-given Gold Glove fool you, Shane is a good-but-not great defensive CF, with a UZR rating of around 3 (good for 10th best in the majors), plus he’s aging and his routes to the ball are enigmatic-at-best.

   Shane is a decent ballplayer, but not exceptional in any of his skills. Take off the homerism glasses and see him for what he is.

8. NJ Says:
   November 18th, 2010 at 1:09 pm

   Let me clarify, pull up a list of the best defensive CFers and I don’t see many that beat Shane’s D.

   I think we make the same point to an expect, he’s a decent player and he had a very decent season being masked by the low average, I won’t suggest his season was anything above a very decent season but a 6.2 to me is low for a guy who contributed more given his skillet than many other guys and certainly a more consistent day-to-day contributor than many others.

9. betasigmashag Says:
   November 18th, 2010 at 4:26 pm

   I think had an above average defensive year, and a below average offensive year. His #leading off were prettygood but he started to faulter leading into the post season. I really do not think he is a lead off guy, but what do you think of him leading him off and batting Rollins 5th, or Vic batting 5th and Rollins leading off. Or do you think Chooch can bat .300 in the fifth spot? could the line up be something like
   Rollins / Vic
   Polly
   Chase
   Ryan
   Chooch
   Vic / Rollins
   Raul
   Brown
   pitcher

10. Greg Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    I think:
    Rollins
    Polanco
    Utley
    Howard
    Werth
    Brown
    Chooch
    Ibanez
    Halladay
    Is good.

11. Ryan H. Says:
    November 19th, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    6.2 way too high for my taste. I think he had a horrid year and between him and J Roll they were the primary culprits as to why the offense stuggled. I’d say his year was a 4. tops

12. Marc H Says:
    November 19th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    By all means, move him. In NLCS Game #6, his baserunning error in the 8th and his horrible at bat in the 5th (taps a ball back to the mound with on the second pitch with the bases loaded) killed the the Phillies The 3 year contract was a total mistake; he’s anopthetr one who has let success go to his head.

    Cut your losses, Rube

13. Marc H Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    Andrers’ Torres ball in the 3rd inning of Game #6 was a tough play–no doubt. Not catching it helped to shift the momentum in that game (The Phillies didn’t have chan e to nurse their easrly lead and try to build on it). . A good defensive centerfielder (which Shane is) gets to the ball ; a great one catches it.

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