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66 Responses to “Taylor Promoted to AAA”

1. Bruce Says:
   July 16th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

   Michael Taylor is on a “fast track” to Toronto?

2. Brian Michael Says:
   July 16th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

   Yea, maybe. I wonder if the promotion increases his value in anyway either in real terms or in the eyes of the Jays…

3. NJ Says:
   July 16th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

   This might just be the happiest day of the season so far for those who post on Phillies Nation

4. Good Night Joe Carter Says:
   July 16th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

   Michael Taylor is a monster, and I sure hope we keep him.

5. The Dipsy Says:
   July 16th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

   Why NJ?

   The Dipsy

6. Chuck P Says:
   July 16th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

   1:21pm: MLB.com’s Todd Zolecki heard from a Phillies source who says Halladay’s $14.25MM salary is nothing and won’t be an issue. The inclusion of Vernon Wells in any trade would be a dealbreaker, however.

7. NJ Says:
   July 16th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

   Dipsy because of the multitude of people who post here saying that Taylor should be moved up to AAA, imagine those with that opinion have a bit of a smile on their faces.

8. Chris L Says:
   July 16th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

   With all the caveats that the Jays are said to be making (include Wells, no time to talk extension, etc.) does anyone else feel like this is just posturing and Toronto doesn’t really want to talk seriously about trade until the offseason? This just gives them a chance to scout those 3-4 teams who they line up with and have those teams move certain prospects up to higher competition to get a better read on them – at best some team might throw a ton of a deal at them now…..there’s really no downside for Toronto.

   Two quick questions some one out there might know:
   1. Besides Stairs does anyone else on the Phillies have a history with Roy?
   2. If the Phils include Donald in any trade, does that force them to work hard to resign Pedro or is there someone else in the system who looks like they have a chance to step in at 3rd next year?

9. Manny Says:
   July 16th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

   I think they’re getting him ready to join the big club in September, and hopefully, for the playoffs…

10. The Big Dipper Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    mlbtraderumorsRT @JeffFletcherAOLOn July 31, the Phillies and Blue Jays are going to be staying in the same hotel in SF. Could be convenient for Halladay.

    Couldn’t plan it any better

    The Big Dipper

11. Jeff Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    I can’t beleive everyone here is still talking Halliday. Do you think the Phillies are really going to get him. This cheap club. The only reason we spent money this year is because our own players needed to be signed. Howard, Vic, Werth, Hamels. Thats why we dont have a good player catching or playing third. We are not going to get him. Be serious people. The Yankees will swoon in like always get Halliday and take Wells contract. The Blue Jays will jump at that to get rid of Wells. I bet you all the money the Phillies pick up a average pitcher. Pedro is horrible. Why not just bring up Carresco or Drabek. Much better options that Pedro.

12. Dan Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Jeff,

    Beat it geek.

13. The Big Dipper Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    Chris-

    For your dual questions:
    1. Other than Stairs I am not sure anyone else would be connected to him.

    2. Donald is not in position to play 3rd anyway. He has not logged much time in AAA at 3rd and it does not seem like the Phillies Front Office is planning to move him from SS.

    The Big Dipper

14. Chris L Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    manny I completely disagree with you.
    The only reason he’s even sniff the october roster is if
    1. Werth was included in the trade for Roy
    AND
    2. Mayberry took over the starting RF duties fulltime. (If Werth leaves it would be more likely for John to split time in a platoon with Dobbs/Stairs)

    The only other reason would be a rash of injuries and those would more likely be filled with waiver pickups etc then rush a prospect (that just hasn’t been the FO’s MO the last decade or so).

    Wouldn’t be surprised if they called him up when rosters expand but anything more than that is dreaming and/or nightmares

15. The Big Dipper Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Our horrible 3rd and catcher? Feliz and Ruiz are here to play good defense. We have enough offense with the other 6 positions on the field that we don’t need any additional power but some good ol’ fashion defense.

    Pete Happy is in the top 3 defensive players at 3rd and also has proven to be very clutch at the plate.

    Ruiz is an excellent defensive catcher when it comes to blocking balls in the dirt and making the throw to second. Add to that, that the pitchers love when he is behind the plate calling the game he is the perfect catcher for this team. Don’t forget he had a hell of a postseason last year.

    The Big Dipper

16. CZ Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    I think Eyre played with Toronto in 2002 or something like that. But that is a pretty tenuous connection at best.

    Also, I see Moyer is scheduled to pitch tonight. Wonder why they wouldn’t go with Cole tonight and Happ tomorrow on regular rest. You could follow with Blanton, Moyer & RH 5th starter to break up the lefties. Anyone have insight?

17. Havoc Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    Not to mention that Pedro has a club option for next year worth a whopping $5 mil.

18. NJ Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    Jeff isn’t it a bit harsh to call the organisation cheap outright and you can’t expect all-stars at every position, Feliz is a very good 3rd basemen for the money and there are only a handful of two-way catchers better than Ruiz.

    On the Halladay issue he isn’t going to be moved with Wells, that’s just writers and bloggers trying to get water from a stone. No club is going to take Wells contract on just to get Halladay, it makes no financial sense for a team to eat that kind of salary. The animosity so often captured here is puzzling so much of the time, IF Halladay is traded the Phils will be in the thick of the bidding, it’s just stupid to harbour anger for not getting a who hasn’t been traded, it’s not like the Phils have missed out on him.

    And for the Pedro haters hold your tongue for a little while, it’s not like the fate of the organisation rests on his deal and Pedro with something to prove might just help this team.

19. Jeff Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Pedro is not worth 5 million. Yes he can field except on some groundballs. Coste was just as good as a defense catcher and ruiz could not hit my dingy.

20. Chris L Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    CZ -
    Moyer has great record against the Marlins historically plus they probably wanted to give Cole and Happ an extra day of rest to keep them fresh for the long haul.

    And do the Marlins in general do badly agaist lefties?

21. Ben Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    just a reminder, the reason no one can negotiate a contract before a trade is because roy doesn’t negotiate mid season. i think its being spun as the jays playing hardball, but i think that is just roy’s deal.

    as someone said, the wells addition is just posturing and bs, they want value from dealing halladay, not a salary dump.

22. NJ Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    I love Coste but he wasn’t a good defensive catcher, he was a good minor league hitter who settled into being a self taught catcher after having it thrust upon him.

    Ruiz doesn’t have the upside to anchor a battery for a decade like Lieberthal did but their aren’t many everyday catchers who aren’t a liability behind the plate better than him.

23. Chris L Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    Jeff – I’m a Coste fan too but for some reason this year his pitch calling seems to have slipped (specifically when working with Lidge as posted earlier in the season). And if you think back to last year when members of this site nicknamed him GIDP, Ruiz has improved his hitting to that of a decent 7/8 batter. Also, Bako has started to fill in decently as well over the last week – once again he’ll never be an all-star but we’re talking about a guy hitting at the bottom of the lineup whose first priority is defense and working with the pitchers.

    In terms of Pedro Feliz, 5 mill for a guy with his track record is about right in the current market. If they let him go and have to find a replacement at that money, we’re getting great defense and solid offensive production. Yes there are guys out there doing it for less money but they are all guys with their first team.

24. The Big Dipper Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    Jeff, you quite frankly have no idea what you are talking about.

    Coste was horrible defensively. He had trouble blocking balls in the dirt, couldn’t make the throw to second and called horrible games. Look at the splits with Coste catching vs. Ruiz. We are way below .500 when Coste was behind the plate. Remember our early season slide? That was when Ruiz was on the DL and Coste was catching daily.

    The organization was so down on Coste behind the plate they went out and got Bako to be the back-up catcher. Coste was given the RH bat on the bench role and failed miserably at that. That is why he was let go.

    I read somewhere that Charlie gave Moyer the first start cause of his record vs the Marlins and to give Hamels an extra day to “get right”

    The Big Dipper.

25. Chuck P Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    Cheap?? Read my post at 1:21… Amaro is snowin money.

    I have always felt like the Phillies view AAA as a holding tank… that’s where they go when they need guys to fill in… there is typically better talent at other levels. With this organization, AAA means experienced minor leaguers. I would actually prefer Taylor to stay at AA and play with the guys that I expect to be around in a few years but it is what it is and the only way that he’s making the big league roster sooner rather than later is by playing AAA. Other teams might be ok skipping to AA but not this team.

26. Chris L Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Ben –
    just like a no trade clause, Roy can change that whole “I don’t negotiate midseason.” Besides, if he doesn’t talk about an extension – at least in general terms – when he talks to the team before waiving his clause he and his agent are idiots. He may not sign anything until he;s had a chance to play there a little bit but if a team does not indicate the potential for a sizable extension in the near future there is no reason he’ll waive the clause.

27. The Big Dipper Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    “Physically, he’s fine,” Rich Dubee said yesterday. “But he’s coming off [262-1/3] innings [last season]. He came off 180-something the year before, and the four years before that, he pitched a combined 201 innings [in the minors]. His workload has increased tremendously, and the wear and tear of a long season, sometimes you don’t feel as strong and subconsciously, you try to do more.”

    But there’s more. Dubee said Hamels has “lost feel for his changeup,” his nastiest pitch. The Phillies are hoping he finds the three-day All-Star break refreshing, and just in case, they’ve decided to give him an extra day off. Jamie Moyer, 12-2 in his career against the Marlins, will start Thursday night in Florida, followed by Hamels on Friday night, Joe Blanton on Saturday and J.A. Happ on Sunday.

    Heres your answer VIA Lauber.

    The Big Dipper

28. NJ Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    Halladay’s agent knows he’s in for a marquee deal once the guy hits the open market, he’ll land somewhere between Zito and Santana/Sabathia money. Since teams were willing to tack on that 5th year for Burnett there’s no doubt someone’s going to tack a 6th of 7th year on to get Halladay signed.

29. The Dipsy Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    NJ – I think, and I have no empirical data to back this up, that Halladay is forcing the trade.

    The Dipsy

30. Ben Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    chris- of course he can, but why would he? he’s going to cash in huge in a year and a half. he could play for almost any contendor he wants to. why does he need to negotiate before he wants to? if anything a team would be happy to get him so at least they get some kind of inside edge to get him back when he hits the open market.

    the only reason he would be an idiot to go somewhere without talking extension is if he really wants to settle down. i don’t think he does. if he wants to settle down he’ll stay in toronto. he wants to play for a contendor, and so he will waive his no trade for a contendor and he will sign his FA deal for a contendor. if he likes the team he is on when he is traded, he will take a lower rate to play for them if they can’t foot that type of bill (like he did in toronto). a team isn’t going to not try and re-sign him though.

31. NJ Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    Dipsy- I suspected Riccardi has been working hard to deal Wells to make a last ditch effort to re-sign Halladay before he enters the final year of his deal. The press during the all-star festivities certainly suggested Riccardi making Halladay available has caused irreparable damaged to an already strained relationship so it’s clear there’s no way he’d accept an extension now and will be traded.

    If Halladay gets dealt (And to me it’s a long-shot happening beore the off-season) it’s going to be for a package including highly touted prospects, it’s not going to be a team saddling themselves with almost $100m or however much is left on Wells deal plus the $14m they’ll have to pay Halladay for just a year of his service. Halladay/Rios is more likely but still makes very little sense

32. Chris L Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    For anyone, the right time to negoitiate is when you can get a fat raise for a long time which for Roy is now. Sure he will get paid eventually – unless he gets hurt, or doesn’t adjust to the new place, or tanks in his first postseason, etc.- but why would he take the chance if he doesn’t have to. The agent will try to get the deal done as soon as possible – even if that means he does all the talking with the club and only beings in Roy at the very end – that’s how the best agents work, they don’t bother the client until they are actually needed to agree to the final terms and sign.

33. The Dipsy Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Have you seen Wells contract for 2010 and beyond? Its completely sick. NO ONE would ever take that on. Me? I think Halladay gets dealt. For what? I don’t know. I think at this point Halladay wants out. I think Ricciardi would basically GIVE you Hallady if you took Wells off his hands. How’s this for thinking outside the box: We take back Wells if the Blue Jays eat a modest but not insignificant portion of his salary. Now we have Wells. The we flip Wells to another team, either in a package or him alone and WE eat a portion of his salary. If you were a team out there who needed an outfielder and a prospect, would you take Wells for 7 mill (after two other teams are done assuming portions of his salary) and a Marson/Donald/Carrasco? Is this just crazy talk?

    The Dipsy

34. Brett Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    I like where your head is at, Dipsy. What about San Fransisco? They’re looking for a bat, arne’t they?

35. Geoff Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    You cant take Wells man. You CANT turn and flip him. Guess what happens if you try and do that? YOURE stuck with whatever portion of his contract you signed up for….NOBODY want that contract, not even your portion. Not even the Yankees will take that off their hands. Also, Wells is worse than ALL of our outfielders so hed make the team WORSE.

    Thats a crap move. you leave Wells out of this

36. Geoff Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    If you think you can take Wells and flip him thats crazy. Thats INSANE.

37. Brett Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    This is the first time I’ve been on the receiving end of Geoff’s negativity. Lovely. Just lovely.

38. The Dipsy Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    Geoff – Read the post a little more closely, please. We will get stuck with a portion of Wells contract, no doubt, BUT we’ll also have Halladay and at a much cheaper price.

    The Dipsy

39. Don M Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    Taylor at AAA gives us more options.. if he is legit than maybe Werth or Victorino get moved, freeing up some money for another pitcher after next season

    Werth makes like $7 M next year.. and I don’t know what Vic has lined up, but he’ll be making more than $5 M in arbitration I think

    Wells is a bad contract that they are trying to move… they also keep throwing Alex Rios out there..

    I think Taylor might be gone in a Halladay deal.. and Rios might go to the White Sox?

40. Chris L Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    That sounds very similar to what CO did with Hampton years back. It would need to be done simlutaneously as a three team deal which is very doable – SF is one of the more likely places but even Chicago this year might make sense (although they might have someone take Bradley off their hands which Toronto might be willing to do since I believe it’s a one year deal).

    Once again though, three team deals usually only happen over the winter because of the need to have all three teams together making concessions…..but aren’t the Phils gonig to be in SF when the Jays are in Oak?

41. The Dispy Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Whoa. If you were the Phillies, would you pay out 25m over 5 years worth of Wells’ contract if you could get Halladay for Marson, Donald, and Stutes? Hey, do I thinks its way out there? Hell yeah! But if you could do it, would you?

    The Dipsy

42. Eb Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Jeff is a moron. How can you call this club Cheap????

43. Chris L Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Here’s a link for the Charles Johnson-Mike Hampton trade that invloved ATL-FLA-CO ( http://espn.go.com/magazine/kurkjian_20021119.html ) It had all three teams paying part of Hampton’s contract for a couple of years. This kind of deal could happen but not midseason, so Dipsy isn’t completely insane.

44. Chris L Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    By the way, looking back at the original point of this thread. It’s looking more and more like Werth is making his last season here. Either Mayberry or Taylor will be in RF next year – the Phils need to cut salary. If he’s not traded insome kind of deal for pitching this season, look for him to be offered arbitration and leave because he wants (and deserves) a multiyear deal — it’s just something that the Phils can’t fit in with all the extensions last year and the need for pitching.
    This season was to decide if Vic or Werth will get the extension and it looks like Vic seems to be slightly ahead and a better fit in the long run partly because of the find of guys the Phils have in the minors.

45. NJ Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Dipsy it’s a nice thought but I have to say Geoff makes a good point. The Jays aren’t going to compromise getting the building blocks for a new generation by putting Wells in a deal with Halladay. On the other-side of it no team is going to saddle themselves with a $100m contract or even half that of a player that doesn’t help them to keep a couple of prospects around.

    Even if the Phils received half of Wells salary they’d still have to eat more to move him and would end up paying out something like $40-60m for a year of Roy Halladay.

46. Pat Gallen Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    I’m stoked for Taylor and for the Phillies. Here’s hoping that he burns AAA like he did in Reading. I’m excited, this could mean big things if indeed he is ready to rock.

47. NJ Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    ^The though of Marson, Donald, and Stutes is nice but the Phils would gladly make more prospects available than throw away $25+m because they wouldn’t throw in the prospects.

48. Geoff Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Taking on even a part of Wells’ contract would UNNECESSARILY cripple the team with a chunk of payroll thrown away essentially. Its the type of thing that Ruben Amaro could get fired for. You have to think of it as htat dead money is SOME piece that they could add in FA or trade but not Cant because they agreed to pay it out.

49. Geoff Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    now catn…it would just be a crazy thing to do. the yankees are the ONLY team in prosports who would even consider taking on Wells’ contract.

50. Chris L Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    NJ –
    I don’t think that Tor would necessarily be “compromising getting the building blocks for the new generation.” Even if they include Wells and his salary they could still demand 4-5 players from another team (or others according to Dipsy) :
    2 high prospects who will step in by 2010 – 1 pitcher and 1 position player,
    1 current major leaguer either a middle rotation guy or decent but not great OF starter,
    a major league utlity player
    and a AA guy with upside.

    On top of that, they would save enough money between Roy and Wells (even if they eat about 2 million of his a year) to sign 2 Feliz sized contracts. If 2 of the 3 prospects work out they’d be satisfied.

51. NJ Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    Chris L- in that scenario the Phils would be taking on the full $100m of Wells just for one year of Halladay (and would still have to pay him) and eating half his salary to move him on would mean the Phils paid over $70m for a year and half of Roy Halladay. And taking the example the Jays eat half of Wells salary to move him in a deal with Halladay they still flat out loose something like $30m and don’t land any of the prospects they’ve been demanding and on the Phils side their still on the hook for $50m’s worth of Vernon Wells because they weren’t prepared to part with better prospects.

52. Don M Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    I think Mayberry sucks.. and if they try to replace Jayson Werth with John Mayberry, our lineup will suffer greatly.

    Mayberry was a guy they took a shot with because they didn’t think Golson would ever be an impact player for this team.. and they were’nt sure what Werth or Ibanez had to give us as full-time players..

    Taylor was on 950espn radio the other day, and REALLY impressed me with his maturity.. I was hoping to see him play at Reading, but didn’t get the chance.
    Werth is signed through next year.. so there is the chance that he departs via trade at the All-Star break if Taylor is ready to play everyday

    but I think when all is said and done.. we’re going to be trying to keep Werth around for a while

53. Chris L Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    NJ –
    A few things,
    1. No one takes Wells without a Halladay extension in place so it would be for more than a 1 1/2 years
    2. I don’t think the Phils should or would do this and even if they did consider it they would have a third team involved that would take away some of the Phil’s financial cost (either by taking Wells himself after the Phils eat some salary 3-4 mill/year? or by taking Moyer, Werth, from the Phils)
    3. At $2 mil a year, the Jays are only paying about 10 mil total over 5 yrs.
    4. To get rid of the financial constrains the Jays would be willing to get lesser prospects although 2 high players is nothing to laugh at — think Carasco and Donald

    The point of my post was that it could happen without the Jays getting nothing in return which is what you said would happen. They’d just get less players in return for financial flexibility you see this all the time.

54. The Dipsy Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    Wait just a minute, please. Lets say Wells’ contract is $100m (i’m laughing as I type this). The Phils want Halladay:

    Option #1: Taylor, Drabek, Happ, Marson, Donald (or a reasonable facsimile of this deal) for Roy: or

    Option #2: Trade Marson, Donald, and Stutes for Halladay and Wells. Assume half of Wells’ contract and have the Jays eat half his salary. The Jays would be saving about 65m by making this deal and thats why THEY would do it.

    I say you pick option #2 IF you can deal Wells to another team, about 5-7m per year to that team, if we would have to eat half his salary. So lets say now we are on the hook for Wells at 25m over five years. Hey, I realize it ain’t my money, but whats another 5m a year? We pay Eaton not to pitch, we pay Thome to play for the ChiSox, we play Jenkins to play American Legion ball. If we’re gonna eat salary lets do it for a good reason for god’s sake. And the aforementioned guys are gonna be off the books soon.. One thing that needs to be said here: The Phillies are making money hand over fist. Lets not hear about “payroll” constraints and budgets. Thats all crap. Now, J.P. Ricciardi, there’s a guy that actually DOES have financial contraints.

    The Dipsy

55. Griffin Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    I agree with Don M on John Mayberry. He’s a fourth OF at best and in no way can he replace Werth, who is the 2nd or 3rd best player on the team.

    Here is a snippet from a Keith Law chat today. The opinions at the end are those of scouts, not just Keith Law.

    “Word is that Michael Taylor is getting promoted to AAA. Is it risky to promote someone you’re trying to use as a trading chip?

    Keith Law:
    More reward than risk for a player who’s performing really well, as Taylor was. If he continues to perform at the higher level, his value increases. Speaking of Taylor, had two conversations with scouts about him and Drabek in the last week, and they independently said the same things – Taylor was a solid 50, and Drabek was a 2/3 rather than a potential 1. Both questioned Taylor’s power potential.”

56. Griffin Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    The Dipsy, what team would take a below average players (Wells) for $7 to 8 million a year? That contract is so bad that paying only 25% of it isn’t worth having him play for you.

57. Chris L Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    Griffin – if they get something in return for taking a flyer on Wells than it might work. That’s why SF was brought up earlier – they are desparate for offense. If Wells goes back to his earlier stats (change of scenary has worked for many players) than 7-8 million is not only reasonable but a bargain

58. The Dipsy Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    Wells isn’t below average. In fact he’s above average. He’s just grossly overpaid. And no one said it would take 8m. I got it at 5-7m. What a contract….my god. The horror.

    The Dipsy

59. mikemike Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    Don am I wrong didn’t you like mayberry before? I thought it was you ,when I said he is nothing to get excited about. Mayberry just is short on talent to be a starter on good team. This is the kind of kid you take a chance and move to a pittsburg or kc and try for a lower a prospect and hope you get lucky.

60. NJ Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    Dipsy- We know since your thoughts have made it into the rumour-milland the teams will have thought of it but any way you spin it either the Jays or Phils loose bad, one financially and the other with prospects.

    The thing that’s being forgotten here is that IF the Jays are willing to eat $50m of Wells salary then they’ll have takers right now separate to the Halladay deal. They’d get full value for Halladay and save the extra on him which would take the bottom line to pretty much the same number for them to the hypothetical third team deal and get still get their prospects. I believe Riccardi actually did come out and say Wells wouldn’t effect a possible deal for Halladay.

    I do like the originality of your thinking but The Wells situation will be resolved separately. No-one bar the Yankees is going to waste a shed-load of money to save from dealing top prospects.

61. Griffin Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    The Dipsy, in what way is Vernon Wells above average? He’s a crappy fielder who doesn’t hit for average or power anymore. Just because he was a 2005 All-Star doesn’t mean he’s good anymore-he’s not.

62. Griffin Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    Chuck, I agree that the Giants are so desperate for offense that they may go for something like that. The Dipsy, I like your idea in theory, but I just think that Wells stinks and nobody (except possibly the Giants) will take him for even $7 or 8 mil a year.

63. psujoe Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    I thought the Yanks would absorb wells salary because they lose Damon and Matsui which would be cash netreul when you add in Halladay and Pettite. The only problem is Wells is righty and both Damon and MAtsui aer lefties with that new short porch.

64. Mike D Says:
    July 17th, 2009 at 12:58 am

    I don’t want Taylor gone. I feel like we have enough lefty power in Howard, Utley, and Ibanez. I know Baseball America rated Dominic Brown as a better player, but we need the righty, man! Taylor will be up next year folks, if we don’t trade him. If a Halladay trade happens next year, and we give up Werth, then we call up Taylor. Wait and see.

65. Don M Says:
    July 17th, 2009 at 9:15 am

    No i’ve never been high on Mayberry, because I’m a huge Werth fan… I was one of the people that was hyped about the Ibanez deal … and I knew that Mayberry would struggle if he didn’t play everyday.

    If he played everyday, he would be alright.. but he won’t be better than any of our current outfielders anytime soon …. and he’s going to struggle coming off the bench, because the pinch-hitter role is one of the toughest things to do in sports

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