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26 Responses to “Phillies Promote Drabek To Reading”

1. Steve-o Says:
   June 1st, 2009 at 12:34 pm

   excellent news. Drabek was really starting to overpower Class A, I’ll be excited to see how he fares against AA talent. If he keeps it up, we could potentially see him late next year.

2. Jeff of NoVa. Says:
   June 1st, 2009 at 12:44 pm

   Wonderful news, I love this kid, I think he has the makings of a 1 or 2 starter.

   I think he may be able to be a Sept call up, I said it earlier this year, many squawked at me, but he has made great progress.

3. PGD Says:
   June 1st, 2009 at 12:50 pm

   I am glad to see him moving up the ranks and interested how he fares against AA competition, I also think they should have promoted dominic brown as well because he clearly has been dominating the FSL and is first in the league in OPS, it would give reading a nice little outfield of taylor, brown, and berry

4. PGD Says:
   June 1st, 2009 at 12:52 pm

   o correction, dominic is now 2nd in OPS but was first for awhile

5. nick Says:
   June 1st, 2009 at 1:05 pm

   Whatever you do Ruben, do not trade Drabek.

6. Geoff Says:
   June 1st, 2009 at 1:11 pm

   I agree, this guy better not be going anywhere except northwards on the roganizational depth chart.

7. Justin Says:
   June 1st, 2009 at 1:16 pm

   Glad to see Chacin, the reclamation project like Tyler Walker, is doing well since his arm problems the previous few years. Tyler Walker, aside from his blown save the other night has been outstanding this season for the Pigs, Rodrigo Lopez is doing better than he has been at previous stops so the Phils scouts are showing a keen eye for good talent that could step in and help the team. Glad to see Drabek moving up, I hope he keeps proving to be dominant, similar to Hamels, could be a great tandem in years to come if that’s the case.

8. Ed R. (formerly just Ed) Says:
   June 1st, 2009 at 1:38 pm

   I could see Chacin getting a call up. I completely forgot about him in the whole Brett Myers replacement discussion. He was actually pretty good in Toronto but then got hurt.

9. Rich Says:
   June 1st, 2009 at 1:45 pm

   solid moves, but Savery and Worley are both having solid seasons, I would like to see them progress too. I guess time will tell though.

10. Bruce Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Why do I get this feeling that the phillies are putting their pitching prospects on a fast track through the farm system? Already 23 yr old Bastardo who jumped from AA to AAA early this season is now asked to fulfill a spot in the Phillies rotation. Obviously, injuries has played a role in the management’s decision. But Bastardo? Over Kendrick and Carpenter? Well.. all I can hope for is that Bastardo can pitch decently and not disappoint.

11. Jeff of NoVa. Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    Bruce,

    Many forget or do not know this but Bastardo was supposed to start at AAA, but was late several times during spring and was sent to start in Reading. He is legit, and so much more upside than Kendrick or Carpenter. The Phillies need to lay it on the line this month with the pitching. If they cannot find someone ready now then they have to trade for a stud to fill the void in the rotation. If Bastardo does not work out, watch for Carrasco then possible Kendrick.

12. Jeff of NoVa. Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Thought I would put this up for thoughts.

    So far with the Pitching staff has worked out as such.

    April – put the best 5 up from Spring. – Didn’t translate into a good rotation

    May- fix weak link in the rotation, Park and replace with Happ, Everyone else seems to improve after very slow start by end of month, we lose Myers.

    June- They will work to fill the 5th spot in the rotation in house prospects and see if any of their young talent is ready, aka Bastardo, Carrasco, Carpenter, Kendrick(r2), Worley

    July- If spot is not filled internally then you go after the sexy trade of a big name starter.

    August- Tweak rotation fill holes in bullpen(if any)

    Sept- If there is still a rotation issue look for Drabek to maybe get a call up start, Stutes possibly, depending on progress.

    Oct- hopefull still playing, going to 4 man rotation and best.

    If they follow that line, I would not see any deals made till after July starts and we see what our young prospects can do. I figure there are 5 starts to cover in June, Hopefully someone like Bastardo claims it early and is succesful or we may see 3-4 different spot starters there.

    June will test how good our bats can push us and how strong our system really is. Talent is talent, but not all talent turns into success.

13. Keystone Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Why is 23 considered too young to be pitching in the majors? Cole was 22 when he started in 2006 and Brett Myers was 21 when he stated in 2002 and Moyer was 23 when he got the call from the Cubs way back in 86. Im just saying that I definitely don’t think calling a 23 year old to the majors is considered fast tracking them.

14. Richie Allen Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    I wonder why its Bastardo and not Carrasco…
    Any thoughts out there?

15. Brett Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Carrasco would have had to pitch on short rest. Plus, Bastardo has put up way better numbers.

    And Keystone, I don’t think the consensus is that 23 is “too” young, I think it’s just young when you compare it to the league average.

16. mikemike Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    Keystone its about innings pitched, control of your secondary stuff, makeup, cole had it all at a young age .Most kids it takes time to develop.

17. NJ Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Nicely put mikemike, most kid pitchers do only come up with a plus fastball and under developed secondary pitches or a great off-speed pitch and control issues with their fastball like Carrasco.

    Bastardo could be lightning in a bottle but its more likely an audition, he’s got a great name for a potential front-line pitcher… almost as good as Outman

18. JeffS Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    # Richie Allen Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 2:50 pm
    I wonder why its Bastardo and not Carrasco…
    Any thoughts out there?

    Less than two weeks ago, he admitted that outside of baseball issues still got into his head and affected his pitching. I’m thinking they want more time down there to make sure his head is screwed on straight.

    From Inquirer May 20:
    He hinted that he had allowed himself to be distracted by off-the-field issues.

    “I had too many things in my head. I had some personal problems. But [Sunday] I felt good, I felt different,” he said. “I felt different yesterday, more focused, with better concentration.”

    He added that he hadn’t been able to throw his curve effectively, but that he was able to throw it with confidence against Gwinnett.

    “Something happened that I had four bad games. But that’s yesterday,” he said. “Now I want to stay healthy and be ready to pitch in the big leagues.”

19. Keystone Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Not to argue this point too much but…

    A look at our division pitchers

    Florida:
    Chris Volstad-21 when started in majors
    Andrew Miller-21
    Josh Johnson-21

    Atlanta:
    Jair Jurrjens-21
    Javier Vazquez-22

    New York:
    Johan Santana-21
    Mike Pelfrey-22
    Livan Hernandez-22

    Washington:
    Shairon Martis-21

    and just because they bought pitching this off season i looked at the yankees too:

    CC Sabathia-21
    AJ Burnette-22
    Andy Pettitte-23
    Joba Chamberlain-23
    Phil Hughes-21

    I only mention this because to me it seems the Phils keep their prospects down in the minors longer than most teams, but i could be wrong, its just a feeling.

    And mikemike I agree 100% but I say if someone shows they have the talent play them. Apparently other teams do.

20. Richie Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    Let me ask you guys something though, I think they didn’t want to bring Carrasco up because they didn’t want to see him flounder and then not be able to trade him. Maybe they are looking to dangle Carrasco and hold onto Bastardo because if Bastardo pitches well he isn’t goin anywhere, so they must be more confident with his stuff.

21. Philly Geoff Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    Is this the same Gustavo Chacin who pitched for the Jays a few years ago?

22. Sam Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    There is absolutely no way they will call up Drabek in September. he is going to be their new golden boy and he going to be brought along nice and slow. He is still coming off tommy john and throwing him into the majors this quickly would be disasterous. I forsee him getting called up next year bu definately not sooner than that.

23. Brett Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    Yes, Philly Geoff, it is.

24. mikemike Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    You put up a lot of pitchers who were 21 when they came up. You mention Santana, He was called up to a 69 win team, who was looking to the future, ready or not and his record wasn’t anythink to brag about and didn’t he get traded, florida has a small market and small payroll and has to bump kids ready or not. Some teams will make kids take there lumps in the bigs because that is all they can do. if they need a pitcher they don’t have the money to go out and get a top pitcher, We are a contending team, and to put that pressure on most young kids can ruin them, judging when they are ready, is a hard thing. andrew miller when he sign his contract was getting paid more than Cole, he was at almost 2 million so florida probabley figure if they had to pay him major league money he should be up. And so far he has been a bust. You watch martis pitch do you think he is ready? They nail his off speed stuff. Don’t you think as bad as washington is they should let this kid pitch in the minors, until he is ready so they don’t ruin his confidence like a galvin floyd.

25. Keystone Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    I was just about to rattle off about 25 other starting pitchers in the league now that started before 23 but Im not going to do that because I agree that you they have to be ready. But everyone has to start sometime and in a fantasy baseball world no injuries happen and you can bring your young talent along as slow as you want, but I would bet that most players in baseball got their start due to an injury. Bastardo has proved he can handle the minors and I wish him the best in the majors. And with moving Drabek and Chacin up I dont think that is fast tracking either. Its time to see what these guys have or we could just keep every prospect down until they’re 30 and have utterly mastered AAA.

26. 4daysrest.com Says:
    June 1st, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Drabek is one kid that I would not move. He’s still so young and has such a high ceiling. People said the same thing about Carrasco, but he hasn’t progressed much over the last year. I’d use Carlos as trade bait and keep this gem in our pockets.

    P.S. – You know you’re getting old when you remember his father’s playing days. Sweet tribute to Doug Drabek’s mustache and a look at Kyle Drabek’s dominant trek @ 4daysrest.com – You’ll dig it.

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