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36 Responses to “100 Greatest Phillies: 45 – Dick Sisler”

1. Phil Says:
   February 10th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

   now this is a guy i dont agree at all being higher than rose

2. christopher Says:
   February 10th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

   i don’t understand how guys like sisler and lerch make the list based almost solely on key moments of their careers, while morandini and presumably blanton won’t for equally important, if not arguably more important moments. especially morandini, who easily ranks among the greatest defensive players in the history of the franchise.

3. Chutley Says:
   February 10th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

   unassisted triple play

4. Joe Says:
   February 10th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

   Sisler above Rose? Really? Dude….

5. Joel Says:
   February 10th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

   “FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
   SAVIOR OF THE UNIVERSE!!!!!!!!!
   FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
   HE’LL SAVE EVERYONE OF US!!!!!!”

   That’s the line from the famous Queen song, which brings us to #44 best Phillie of all time. None other than Flash Gordon!

   Sure he didn’t have sexy numbers but that was a damn good song!

6. Greg V. Says:
   February 10th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

   I’m sorry, this list lost me when Randy Wolf beat anyone before him (except Joe Table).

7. Fran Says:
   February 10th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

   sexy numbers?

8. mets09 Says:
   February 10th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

   you guys are so wack,I mean im sorry ,but Tim is making a list on HIS blog and you are telling him how to do it. You guys say the same thing everytime he post one of these and its redundent and dumb. Get over it. And for those who argue about guys who have had great careers, he clearly stated its about what they did and ment to the phillies. Im willing to bet most of you were not alive for most of these players therefore cant understand the list. I got your back Tim

9. Brett Says:
   February 11th, 2009 at 12:10 am

   Get off Tim’s back, y’all. Sisler is the stuff of Phillies legend. I would have liked Rose higher, but this isn’t my list. Get over it.

10. christopher Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 4:12 am

    how about stop putting tim on the cross. we all enjoy his blog or else we wouldn’t keep coming here. when you do a project like this, something as grand in scale and definitive as the top 100 players in the history of a franchise as storied as the phillies, you obviously are leaving yourself open to lots of criticism. tim knew that coming in and he isn’t a baby that should be applauded like he just took his first poop every time he adds another name to the countdown.

    as i’ve said before, i’m enjoying the project on a whole, i just disagree with a lot of the rankings so far.

11. Woodman Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 7:40 am

    Tim, It must be very comforting to know that a Muts Clown (mets09) has “got your back”. WHEW! Nice selection, by the way!

12. Fran Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 8:21 am

    haha i love the blog and the amazing job that he does with it. I just found sexy numbers funny.

13. metsblow4show Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 8:53 am

    You could not have a better person having your back then a Muts fan……who knows more about giving the Heimlich Manuever ? My prediction for #44 is……Ron Reed !

14. Brian Michael Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 9:34 am

    Did someone say Steve Jeltz?

15. Chase Mutley Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 10:17 am

    Man, Mets fans will come on here and really try to pick a fight over *anything* won’t they?

16. Tim Malcolm Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 10:36 am

    At this point I’m immune to the slings, but this one:

    “while morandini and presumably blanton won’t for equally important, if not arguably more important moments.”

    An unassisted triple play in a meaningless mid-season game while the team is 20 games below .500 is certainly not more important than a pennant-winning home run against the Brooklyn Dodgers on the last day of the season.

    I mean, are you serious?

17. Griffin Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 10:42 am

    Abraham Nunez was a great fielder as well, he should definitely be top 20 on this list!

    People favor who they know. Bringing up names like Blanton and Morandini is patently ridiculous. One guy is still whining about Randy Wolf being on the list probably because Randy didn’t sign an autograph for him or something.

    Abreu signs a 1 yr/$5mil deal with the Angels. The Ibanez and Bradley deals look worse and worse.

18. Wilson Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 10:43 am

    I like the rankings so far Tim and I really like Sisler here and Rose where he is for that matter.

    Keep em coming

19. Don M Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 10:52 am

    Yea, anyone complaining about this list should be glad that Tim takes the time and effort to put one together.. and give you some insight to Phillies history instead of just talking about 1993, and 2008 all the time

    Absolutely NOBODY saw the salaries going this low… If you would have told me Abreu would only get a 1 year deal, for $5 M…. and Burrell would get 2 at $8 M I would have laughed

    We got Ibanez… now next year we’ll get Myers and Blanton cheaper than if we would have gone after FA pitchers this year… it all comes full circle, it will work out, and we got a hell of a player in Ibanez

20. Bruce Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 11:45 am

    To sign Ibanez who will be 37 years old this June for $31.5M and THREE YEARS will continue to elicit criticisms from fans even if there were no noticeable trend of lower dollar amount$ for new contracts.

    The Phillies have replaced Burrell with someone much older, just as expensive and at least as weak defensively. Plus, Ibanez is left-handed, which will give managers of opposing teams plenty of easy calls in how to approach the middle of the lineup any time after the fifth inning. I read all the criticisms about Burrell and his streakiness in hitting and slowfooted in the field. However, keep in mind, as a righthanded slugger, he batted fifth behind Howard and his productive numbers are usually there in the end. In LF, he used his experience there and catches what he can get to. Plus he prevented runners from taking an extra base with his strong arm. I also have read reports that Burrell with his long tenure as a Phillie was a vocal leader in the clubhouse especially during the WS championship season.

    For better or worse, we have a contract with Ibanez that will last to his 40th birthday.

    Who will be Ibanez’s late inning caddy in LF this season?

21. Don M Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 11:51 am

    I think the biggest thing about Burrell leaving, is who steps up as the team leader.. which we’ve talked about before.

    Ibanez is WAY more consistent at the plate, and will help to prevent those ALL-OR-NOTHING innings that we’ve grown used to..

    I think people make WAY TOO MUCH about the LH stuff.. last year the Phillies went into the season with 1 LHP in the bullpen, Romero.. this year we’ll do it again, with Eyre until Romero gets back..

    Everyone freaks out about Left-Hand Hitter facing LHP, but it doesn’t seem to matter when it’s Right-Hand Hitters facing RHP. If you can hit, you can hit.. and it doesn’t matter which side of the plate you stand on

22. Griffin Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    Bruce, good points, don’t forget that the Phillies also had to give up a 1st round pick by signing Ibanez, whereas Burrell, Abreu and Dunn would not have cost the Phils a pick. Yuck.

23. Bruce Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    I have enjoyed reading Tim’s selections for the so called “greatest Phillies”. There are several names he chosen of turn-of-the-century players that has aroused my curiosity for further reading on my own.

    Of course, as Tim well knows, some of his selections will elicit second guessing and debates. After all, that is the byproduct of blogging. And the best example of that is his curious selection of Pete Rose as 54th on his list; an All-Star for his four years with team and helped guide them into the World Series twice (1980, 1983).

    One other point to be made here is that I would not include CURRENT players on the team to the “Greatest–” list. Unless Tim cares to revise the list year to year which I doubt, the career of current players are obviously incomplete and can be subject to down years in future performance. As an example, how high or low in rating Utley without knowing if he can healthy and continue to play at the highest level for the next 5 years or more?

24. Don M Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    1st round picks the the 2004 #1 overall that just got traded from the Padres …. 1st round picks, only like 30% of which ever make the majors??

    Draft picks in baseball don’t mean a thing… PROSPECTS are what matters

    Lots of guys tear it up in High School, even in college… Burrell was one of the best hitters EVER in college.. and he hits .257 for his career in the majors

    its all about seeing these guys more and more.. seeing what happens when the have to play and practice EVERY single day.. not everyone has the desire to work to be great, and that’s why baseball’s minor league system is the best in all the sports.. NBA is trying to do something with their D-league… shame the NFL can’t get with the program

25. Griffin Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    Don M., Hamels, Myers and Utley were all first round picks. It’s true that the success rate of 1st round picks isn’t great, but it is great than the success rate of 2nd round picks and 3rd round picks, etc.

    Also, the Padres badly reached for Matt Bush in ‘04 and everyone knew it. They should have picked the guy who went 2nd overall, Justin Verlander.

26. Don M Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    Verlander hasn’t been anything spectacular either..

    I understand your point, its just that of all the sports.. Baseball’s draft picks don’t mean anything unless you have a very limited payroll, which the Phillies do not..

    4-5-6 years from now when this year’s 1st round draft pick would make the majors, Utley, Rollins, Myers, Howard, Lidge, etc.. will either be gone, or winding down… so they wanted to get another established veteran to help keep this team at the top of major league baseball..

    If they offered Burrell arbitration, he would have accepted, and we’d be paying him $15 M or so this year… instead, we’re paying Ibanez $10 M… which considering the market for Corner-OF now, is overpaying.. but compared to the Burrell option, we made out like bandits

27. Don M Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    obviously I know Verlander is a #2, if not an ACE on every staff in baseball…

    but he’s had some arm issues, and last year his ERA shot up way past what people expected of him… When they are both on top of their games, gives me Myers over Verlander (im being a homer of course)

28. Don M Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    I’ve heard of 12 of these 30 players drafted in that 1st Rd of 2004

    http://www.mymlbdraft.com/2004

29. Griffin Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    I’d take Verlander. Given the adjustment from playing in the tougher league and having to face the DH instead of the opposing pitcher, I’d take Verlander.

    But I do love Myers.

    Don M, that 2004 draft is one that will help your argument of the draft as a crapshoot.

    Take a look at this mess: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/draftday/y2004/search.jsp?sc=round&sp=1

30. Griffin Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    woah, same wavelegth there.

    Take a look at how much better the ‘05 draft is: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2005/index.jsp?content=firstround

    Justin Upton, Alex Gordon, Jeff Clement, Zimmerman, Tulowitzki, Braun, Maybin, Pelfrey, McCutcheon, Jay Bruce, Ellsbury, Garza, Joey Devine, Rasmus and our very own John Mayberry Jr.!

    Now that is a fantastic draft.

31. Don M Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    Sometimes its luck… the year the Flyers have a top draft pick there is no Crosby, Malkin or Ovechkin..

    different sport i know, but a draft is a lot about guessing right.. nobody can project and predict perfectly

    I’d rather have Ibanez NOW, then a chance of a decent player 5 years from now

32. christopher Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    first of all, blanton probably wouldn’t make my top 100 phillies. but he sure as hell would make it before randy lerch. i was just using him as an example if we’re talking homerun hitting pitchers. now, as for this…

    “An unassisted triple play in a meaningless mid-season game while the team is 20 games below .500 is certainly not more important than a pennant-winning home run against the Brooklyn Dodgers on the last day of the season.

    I mean, are you serious?”

    are you serious? i’m talking all time great moments in phillies history, and you think i’m talking about the unassisted triple play? sure that’s a nice piece of trivia that only adds to morandini’s resume, but obviously i’m talking about his role in winning us the 93 NLCS. he single handedly took greg maddux, the best pitcher in baseball, out of the game and secured the phillies’ spot in the world series. first with a less than glorious line drive off his leg, in typical philly sports lore fashion, and then with one of the greatest hits in phillies history: the 2 run triple that chased maddux. how in the world someone so concerned with the history of the club could think i was talking about the unassisted triple play, and not morandini’s game 6 triple, is beyond me.

    i think in your efforts to make this list as historical as possible has lead to the most important parts of the phillies’ history getting the shaft: the players who made huge contributions to actually getting to the world series, and those who won it. of course sisler deserves a spot on the list as such, and higher than morandini. but by the same token, of course morandini deserves a spot on the list as well. for a team who has been around this long, and 4/6 NL pennants have come from 1980 on, you shouldn’t let how long ago a player played cloud your judgment on just how important they were to the history of the franchise.

33. mets09 Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    Ha, Tim lives in New York, Im sure most of the people he knows are Met fans. He didnt even want to stay in the shit hole philly.sorry i dont attack on here a lot ,but some popel felt it was needed to comment on what I said, And to the one who said I was trying to start a fight? Yeah defending the LEader of this blog is really starting a fight. Im willing to bet most agree with me because they come back to this site.

34. mets09 Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    and read what Tim says, go make your own blog if you disagree with his list ,bbut im willing to bet most of you have never heard any of these players until the list.

35. mets09 Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    therefore do not have the baseball knowledge to make a list or even comment on how he does make one.

36. Greg V. Says:
    February 11th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Hey Griffen! Randy Wolf never turned me down for an autograph. I have no personal problems with him. I even think he’s a half decent pitcher. But the point is, his tenure for the Phillies included numerous trips to the DL and mediocre stats. I mean considering the crap we had pitching for the Phils during that era, I suppose Wolf stands out. I just found that ranking him in the middle of the list was way high.

    As for mets09, I don’t care who ranks on this list highest. If Von Hayes is Tim’s number one Phillie then so be it. This list is not carved in stone and handed to us by the gods. It’s just a bloggers opinion. I’m sure there are tons of people who wouldn’t agree with my favorite players. Does it make me right or wrong? No. But if you are going to write a blog, expect differing opinions.

    Also, Philly is not a shit hole. It’s quite nice. You should try it sometime instead of starting fights on a blog. Moron!

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