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100 Greatest Phillies: 94 – Granny Hamner
Posted by Tim Malcolm, Tue, December 23, 2008 02:00 PM
Granny Hamner
Shortstop
1944-1959
Career w/Phillies: .263 AVG / 103 HR / 705 RBI / 35 SB
Playing 16 seasons with the Phillies, Hamner is one of the more decorated names in Phillie history, but alas, he wasn’t really a great player most of the time. He became a full-time player in 1948, and broke out in 1950 with 11 HR and 82 RBI. He locked up a couple more nice seasons until 1955, when he broke down toward an early retirement. With some power, Hamner hit over 100 homers in his Phillies career, but only hit above .280 once in a full season. Traded by the Phillies for Humberto Gonzalez in 1959, Hamner soon retired, before dying in Philadelphia in 1993.
Comment: It seems like low placement for Hamner, but I finally decided on this spot because he just never stood out as a good player (though he received plenty of MVP votes). At best, he was mediocre, both at the plate and on the field. He deserves praise, however, for being a leader in the early 1950s.
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December 23rd, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Drop the Hamner…
December 23rd, 2008 at 2:58 pm
At first I read it as Granny Hammer, and the worst porno ever flashed in my mind.
*shudder*
December 23rd, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Granny Hamner was most noted as an excellent clutch hitter. My father, an avid Philles fan, alway said that if Hamer could bat all the time with men on base, he would have been a 300 hitter Former announce Byron Saam , as well as Richie Ashburn, agreed that Hamner’s best asset was hitting with men on base, especially in scoring position. That is the main reason he received MVP votes.
Otherwise he was a very average fielder and batter.
December 23rd, 2008 at 3:13 pm
“At first I read it as Granny Hammer, and the worst porno ever flashed in my mind.”
I just wet myself…
December 23rd, 2008 at 3:46 pm
That is absolutly revolting… And I have to go to my grandparents house tonight… Sick!
December 23rd, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Granny Hammer, isn’t that the GILF section of the Bang Bros empire?
December 23rd, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Granny Hammer? You boys found my website!
December 23rd, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Hey Tim, I think you missed the boat here with Granny Hamner. He was one of the best clutch hitters of the 50’s and hit .305 with runners in scoring position for his career. When you look at his career stats, they don’t jump out at you, but what you have to realize, he was from a diferent era where middle infielders didn’t put up big power numbers like the middle infielders of today. Ernie Banks came along and changed the shortstop position forever. But when you compare Granny to the other shortstops and secondbasemen of the 50’s, his numbers were very respectable. I think he deserved to be much higher on your list, but thats just my opinion.
December 23rd, 2008 at 5:54 pm
I can’t believe the Yankees just signed Teixeira, I hope they don’t make the playoffs again this year.
December 23rd, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Yeah well they overpaid for another player again. Thats 3 now. I really hate the Yankees!
December 23rd, 2008 at 6:17 pm
How can you hate the Yankees for continuing to do what hasn’t worked for them and giving up on a decent plan (supplementing their all star lineup with young talent from within) in one year?
December 23rd, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Wow,with the world in a recession,I see the Yankees have their own universe…..I hate the IDEA that the Yankees are pulling a knee jerk reaction into trying to “BUY” a title…but it doesn’t work…… see Rodriguez,Alex
December 23rd, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Another thing….Scott Boras is the Anti-Christ and the Steinbrenners are nothing more than sheep for Boras to slaughter,whats next….get Manny,try to hoodwink Amaro into getting Hamels for a bag of ballsBetter yet,try and drag Babe Ruth out of his grave,try to revive Billy Martin to replace Girardi,or beter yet….try to rebuild the fountain of youth and let George Steinbrenner have a glass of the water.What a wonderful reunion,Billy and George part 6.Baseball themselves MUST stand up to Boras and tell him AND his minions he represents to ROT IN HELL.
December 23rd, 2008 at 6:27 pm
The Yankee$ now have the four highest paid players in the game.
December 23rd, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Gee,I thought that Phil Collins went downhill and was fun…now Granny Hafner took a downturn as well.I was just going to Blockbuster to rent out Granny Hafner,but the IDEA of an 80 year old woman in a porno really reminded me of another boring porno…Debbie Does Dishes.
December 23rd, 2008 at 6:44 pm
That was Hamner excuse me…..damn Indians
December 23rd, 2008 at 6:45 pm
8/$180 is ridiculous. Does this make Boston more eager to go after Lowe?
December 23rd, 2008 at 6:54 pm
The Phils signed RP Gary Majewski..I guess there stocking up on bullpen arms
December 23rd, 2008 at 6:59 pm
So far we have had Lerch, Bo, Chick, Table and Granny… it sounds like a dysfunctional Fishtown family.
December 23rd, 2008 at 7:18 pm
I hope this is true.
3:38pm: The contract does not include an opt-out clause, according to Danny Knobler. Knobler agrees with Olney that the Red Sox fell about $10MM short. He says the Sox are not inclined to react by “stepping up their pursuit of Derek Lowe or any other top starting pitcher.”
December 23rd, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Gary Majewski for a minor league deal for 650K. Why piss money away like that? He’s terrible.
December 23rd, 2008 at 7:23 pm
yeah he is terrible…
December 23rd, 2008 at 7:30 pm
He’s been hurt for the past 2-3 years.. 650K for a guy with upside that could possibly help your bullpen if Condrey, Park, Durbin, etc don’t pan out..
He was VERY good a few years ago, posting ERAs around a 3.50 …. and to their credit the Phillies have either been very GOOD, or very LUCKY with slop-pickups for their bullpen arms..
and….
I’m starting to really think that Lowe ends up with the Mutts
December 23rd, 2008 at 7:36 pm
they are kind of hoarding bullpen arms that have been in teh majors at some point in tehir careers but have had a few slop years…a bunch of those non roster invites are the same type as majeski. could turn out well who knows…
now that the yankees feel into another big money pit trap, the mets are poised to follow them right into the quicksand and sign derek lowe…nice…ill bet his price hasnt really dropped that much…if amaro gets wind of this he should come in and make a fake offer to drive up the bidding for derek lowe, then as soon as the mets go overboard and coutner you let them take the poison pill contract..
December 23rd, 2008 at 7:41 pm
How many “Mets” fans do you think bought Yankees hats in the past week???
December 23rd, 2008 at 7:42 pm
apparently a lot because they just forked over some big change to another good but overrated player
December 23rd, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Are the Yanks crazy enough to go after Manny now that the Angels are out of it?
December 23rd, 2008 at 8:10 pm
No we never give up on our team and the yankees dont look all that good!!
Lowe will be A MET!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 23rd, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Don M…….I stay true to the orange and blue…..LETS GO METS!
December 23rd, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Nice name, “Derek Lowe = Mets”, you can tell you’re a real lifer. Yes, watching the Tankees aim their leaf blower filled with 100’s at every high-priced free agent is wrenching to both stomach and soul, but I think the real problem has to be that the MLB has engineered the kind of broken system that allows teams with disproportionately wealthier owners to spend recklessly and with total impunity. THe bottom line is, as vile as the Yankees money machine must seem to any real fan of the game, teams like this will continue to exist until MLB execs. grow a conscience, think once for what’s actually best for the game as a whole, and institute some system (likely some type of salary cap) to stop the utter eradication of the fair market in baseball.
December 23rd, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Our first position player to make the list!
December 23rd, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Hamner was Richie Ashburn’s roomate in the minor leagues and was also a member of the 1950 Whiz Kids.
December 23rd, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Howard, Utley, Rollins, Feliz > Teixera, Cano, Jeter, Rodriquez and a heck of a lot cheaper.
December 24th, 2008 at 12:46 am
For you guys,the “best” thing about Teixiara signing with the Bankees is,now Ryan Howard will NEVER Become a yankee when free agency hits for him.
December 24th, 2008 at 2:59 am
To metsblow4show~ Excellent comments on Granny Hamner. As you noted, Hamner played in a different era where middle infielders rarely put up “power” numbers you see today. He was indeed an outstanding clutch hitter for the team and I too believe he should be ranked higher on the list.
December 24th, 2008 at 3:16 am
Grrrumpy Miner,
I will give it to the Yankees; sign CC and Burnet for 200+Million then go and ask the City for money for the stadium. At least the Mets are dropping payroll to afford new payroll… Yanks spending way more than they dropped.
December 24th, 2008 at 8:42 am
SC,with the Phillies winning in 08,I expected my Amazins to pull a knee jerk reaction by going after the moon….however,Omar is doing the Wright thing in spending money wisely and keeping calm.Omar did what he had to do without going over the top and yet overhauled a glaring weakness in the bullpen.Mets still need more to solidify their team for 09,yet have the potential to contend.I know the Amazins have one more deal in the works,will it be Lowe or Manny,as they say in the NY Lottery….Hey,ya never know.Now that my Jets and Isles are done for,It feels good to keep up with my primary team,The NY Mets.
December 24th, 2008 at 9:38 am
Granville is way too low on this “list”. Not flashy, but a clutch player for the Phils!
December 24th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Now Howard becomes a RED STOCKING instead of a Yankee… David Ortiz can’t go on forever..
December 24th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Theyll wait about a year and a half and then call the red sox up…i wonder what boston will cough up…i doubt theyd even consider trading lester..maybe bucholz or masterson or some unnamed as yet unemerged pitching prospect of theirs..youkilis would REALLY thrive in philadelphia but theyll sign him to an extension.
December 24th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Tim, this countdown has become a fun thing for my dad and I to do, he was born in 1921 so he remembers these older guys. I asked him if he remembered Phil Collins, he said’Oh yeah, Fidgety Phil”. Dad’s memory is failing pretty fast now, but stuff from his earlier life he remembers like it was yesterday, so every day when I call him I read these to him, he really enjoys it. Thanks, Tim.
March 1st, 2009 at 8:02 pm
I strongly agree with those who say Hamner is way underrated on the list.
Although injuries beginning in 1955 cut his career short and turned him into a parttime player, until then he was a three time all-star as both shortstop and second baseman. For seven seasons from ‘48-54, Hamner was one of the National Leagues best, toughest players. Although he made a lot of his errors on balls hit right at him, he could go in the whole and gun down runners with the strongest arm of any contemporary shortstop. He drove in runs and could hit with power.
I have had conversations with several ballplayers of his era and to a man they say he was vastly underrated because of the New York media. IMHO he should be ranked much higher than this in Phillie history.
August 25th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Dude…
It was Humberto Robinson he was traded for…the “Gonzalez” was Tony Gonzalez.
DOC
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